Minister Katz: “The demonstrations have become a symbol of breaking the law and unloading every yoke”


“Enforcement must be increased”: Finance Minister Israel Katz aired this morning (Tuesday) on the program of Anat Davidov and Guy Peleg on 103FM, referring to the alarming increase in the morbidity rate of the corona virus as well as demonstrations in front of the prime minister’s residence. There is no doubt that the demonstrations have become a sign and a symbol of breaking the law. ”

Will you vote today for the law restricting demonstrations?
“The law is in the Knesset, as soon as it comes to a vote I will vote for it. Regarding the issue of demonstrations, I think it should be a connection between the issue of stopping demonstrations and imposing a hermetic closure on the economy. This thing unfortunately came up in the debates. “Against the proposal, then in the second stage I was able to change and bring about a situation where a lot of industries that were supposed to be closed, will be opened, and it will be possible for those who do not receive an audience and there is no health danger in them.”

Why should a law be passed restricting demonstrations when there is no data on those infected? In the meantime we do not see it, and you may reveal it to us.
“I do not know how this law was constructed, but for me as someone who is a major factor in the economic aspect of this whole issue and in the whole crisis, there is no doubt that the issue of demonstrations has become a sign and a symbol of law breaking.

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Who made him this symbol?
“The general public: the owner of the stand in the market in Ramla put up a demonstration sign and so does everyone else. There are of course other publics there who have very serious problems and need to increase enforcement in a real way, but the demonstrations beyond their essence have actually become a symbol and unloading.” Please. “

Let’s put it on the table, it’s disturbing the prime minister, it’s happening to him in front of and inside the house, it’s bothering him and his family.
“First of all this issue of demonstrations, when all the other things are formally closed, except for essential services, is something that is utterly absurd. All the other interpretations are irrelevant at all, what it interferes with, what it brings and what it means politically. I think my people The demonstrations themselves had to themselves say ‘in this period of fierce struggle with the corona virus, we are stopping these demonstrations’.

It is possible today in the reality of social networks to express very widespread protests without coming physically and without making it something that has a permit for everyone else as well and violating the restrictions. “It should be understood, we are here in the war, there are two things that are critical here – increasing enforcement, effective enforcement and increasing hospital capacity, these are the critical things that will allow us the space for action.”

Perhaps you should focus on the critical things, because in this plague and in general economic matters, the table and the numbers are the ones that tell the story. And if we have such data in the ultra-Orthodox society, perhaps enforcement and information should also be focused there and let the demonstrators go, because the demonstrations did not record alarming data of morbidity.
“We need to take care of the ultra-Orthodox, Arab and general sectors. We need to take care of young people, parties and pirate weddings. We need to take care of everyone. public health?”

On the contrary. On Yom Kippur I saw mass prayers in open areas and I thought it was okay and thought to pray and allow prayers, also mass prayers as long as they kept distance between people and wearing masks. And I thought that it was equally important to allow demonstrations as long as the demonstrators themselves adhered to the guidelines of the Ministry of Health and the police would turn in case of violation.
“On Yom Kippur, which is a special day, they found an arrangement with the consent, decision and consensus of a very broad consensus. I hope they did it outside, I myself prayed at home. I also go to synagogue every Yom Kippur, this time I prayed at home, and I think in this matter except day. Yom Kippur needs to be very careful now. ”

As you prayed at home you expect a protester to demonstrate at his home. You understand where this will lead.
“What is this interpretation? I am frustrated by the facts. I can tell you that a few days ago, before he the prime minister raised the issue, I told him in a nightly conversation that the demonstrations are against him but that does not allow him the privilege of not bringing it up for discussion. The issue of demonstrations is a critical issue that affects the public’s willingness to enforce obedience.

I in the economic field make decisions by consensus and it is not easy. All the decisions I have made so far have been unanimous in the government and the Knesset in the amount of NIS 90 million, a safety net plan, why? Because I invest a lot in it, even with the opposition I spoke. I want to generate national agreement here on key aspects of fighting the virus. It should also be in the second area. “

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Do you live in peace with the fact that there will be a law that will be brought to the Knesset and voted on?
“Sorry, the law is in the opinion of the whole government. I was not a partner in its representation, it is in the opinion of blue and white and others.”

A full closure was not on your mind, but the restriction of the demonstrations was.
“Certainly not. I objected to involving the issue of banning and reducing demonstrations by having a full closure on the economy, it is not something that should be related to each other, it is a very serious and good thing I succeeded at the last minute after proposing against the government, the day after with the Attorney General. .

I ask you as someone who trusts the public coffers, is there any red line where you say the money runs out? How long will you extend the closure? If the numbers do not stabilize – is there a point in time when you will stop it and say that the economy must return to full activity?
“It was clear to me in light of the morbidity situation that it would get worse in the first phase and it was clear to me that the closure would continue beyond Yom Kippur. This to some extent so that the longer the quarantine lasts for the purposes it is supposed to achieve and that is to lower the morbidity.

Do you know which factories were supposed to be left out? IAI, Rafael, Elbit, Intel, construction industry, infrastructure, services, shipments from all businesses, all these things were going to be on the side and we put them in, they do not endanger health but contribute to infrastructure. We need to be prepared for dual activity on the one hand lowering morbidity by real enforcement, you mentioned here some things that must change and on the other hand to maintain the minimum infrastructure for economic activity.

The sums that flow in favor of the independent businesses, the business owners, the employees, the unemployment benefits, are essential things that every advanced country in the world does, so the State of Israel has its capabilities so as not to abandon businesses and citizens. “And I lead this line in a way that I think is sound, correct with the backing of the Governor of the Bank of Israel and I am the profession in the Ministry of Finance and ultimately in the unification of the entire government in our position.”

Atmosphere of closure (Photo: Avshalom Shashoni)

We are talking about 21.2 percent unemployment which seems to me to be the highest figure in the world. If the closure continues and no more jobs are opened and people continue to go out to work, this patent that we have already talked about several times actually does damage because when an employer wants to get an employee back.
“This issue of the Knesset that I decided would be until June next year, it has saved here mentally, practically and financially hundreds of thousands of people who knew they had a safety net. The same goes for self-employed and business owners, who receive a fixed payment in relation to the volume of expenses and a decrease in results, it also gives them peace of mind. “

The question is if you were not wrong in the way you granted these funds, was it not right to transfer the funds to employers and incentivize them?
“We encouraged employers. Believe me, this is the right thing to do, I do not know if you know people who are forced to go out of work, no one wants it, I gave them a safety net. Every time they said why not another two weeks, why only another month “.

I know other stories, of workers not wanting to go back to work, that it’s good for them to get the money, they stay home.
“I make decisions in the light of data. When the program was launched, there was a situation of over nine job seekers for every vacancy. Towards the end of August and this is the tragedy, it has dropped to eight and maybe less, unemployment has started to go down and then the corona is back We have built an elastic safety net, for the unemployed, for the large and small business owners, for the self-employed, so that they can receive the assistance, and I updated and today in the Knesset there are three pieces of legislation that will lower the aid threshold to 25%. Instead of 40%, of course the unemployment benefits will continue and we also give advances at the expense of September and October. “

How much more can the economy suffer from rising unemployment? What do you think will be considered a red line?
“We do as much as necessary and as required. We ordered I gave a grant back to work to employers 400,000 workers returned.”

Yes, but there is a given situation, there is a closure.
“Now we are giving the opposite incentive to retain employees, but once businesses close it is not possible to retain employees. We need to understand, we are responding in light of the situation, the State of Israel is in a stable position, raising money is at a very cheap interest rate.”

Closure in Tel Aviv (Photo: Avshalom Shashoni)Closure in Tel Aviv (Photo: Avshalom Shashoni)

The OECD does not think so.
“It’s not true, he praised the aid that Israel gives, he talked about the need to reduce gaps and other things, he praised the aid that the State of Israel gives, the aid receives broad support and not in vain, I do not see demonstrations against him and I also do not see real demonstrations by business owners because “They know very well. I appear in the media, and then the makeup artist or photographer says thank you very much for receiving grants every time.”

I invite you to tour with me on Ben Yehuda Street, a main street in Tel Aviv, the street has been dead for five months.
“In a practical and moral and real difficulty, we give assistance to get through this difficult situation until he gets vaccinated.”

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